It has been 24 hours since this press release hit the streets, and I guess we are surprised that there hasn't been more discussion about this new engine. We've made a few assumptions.
First, you are well informed and have known about a Cummins V8 since it was a concept back in the early 2000's. Although that was not the same V8 that will be used by Nissan, we have all followed the V8 engine through the recession days of Daimler Chrysler. As noted above, it is ironic that the Ram 1500 3L Eco Diesel was (initially) developed for General Motors/Cadillac, and now this Nissan 5.0L diesel was developed for Chrysler/Ram (initially). Turn about is fair play . . . .
Second, with the explosion of social media, digital entertainment (parading as news), and the ability of everyone with a digital toy to parade as an expert on every subject, you might wonder what's really to say anyway.
The thing is, much of the editorializing by those with keyboards has been done by people who never have, nor ever will, own a diesel pickup. Enough said.
We are interested in your thoughts and insights as informed diesel owners. We'd even like to publish these insights in the magazine for those other TDR Members who are not as digitally savvy or experienced as you. So post your best thoughts - the good, the bad, and the ugly - here.
COLUMBUS, IND. – Cummins Inc. (NYSE:CMI) announced today that its historic Columbus Engine Plant (CEP) is being readied to build the Cummins 5.0L V8 Turbo Diesel for Nissan’s next generation Titan pickup truck.
"This is an exciting announcement for our Cummins team," said Tom Linebarger, Chairman and CEO, Cummins Inc. "We are bringing our innovation and latest technology in engines and aftertreatment products to a new segment of customers. Importantly, this will help us grow our own business as well as allow us to help an important new partner, Nissan, succeed in the market."
At a showcase of its product and technology portfolio in California, Nissan (NYSE: NSANY) announced today it will offer the Cummins 5.0L V8 Turbo Diesel in the next generation Titan. Nissan is not announcing launch dates, but engineering prototype trucks powered by the Cummins engine are currently undergoing extensive on-highway testing.
The automaker is counting on the Cummins diesel to provide light truck customers with a combination of towing capacity and fuel economy that will give the Titan a key advantage in the highly competitive U.S. pickup truck market.
“The partnership with Nissan on the V8 program benefits not only Cummins employees, but also our community,” said Jeff Caldwell, General Manager of Cummins’ pickup truck business, who started his 31-year career with Cummins at CEP. “The innovative and lightweight design of the 5.0L V8 Turbo Diesel is a perfect fit for the customer who wants V8 performance with diesel efficiency. It broadens Cummins’ range of products and provides a new clean diesel option for our customers."
Fred Diaz, Divisional Vice President, Nissan Sales & Marketing, Service & Parts, Nissan U.S.A., said Nissan is also excited about the partnership.
“There is no question that the new Titan will turn heads, and with the available Cummins 5.0L V8 Turbo Diesel we expect to win new fans and attract buyers looking for this unique configuration,” he said.
Caldwell said today’s announcement is a testament to the Company’s determination and commitment to innovation. Cummins first announced it was building a light duty diesel engine at CEP in 2006 but a global economic downturn delayed the project.
Caldwell said the V8 team continued making refinements to the engine during the downturn, then began to incorporate specific customer needs once an agreement was reached with Nissan.
The engine meets the latest emissions regulations, drawing on the best of innovation at Cummins, including turbo technology, filters from the Company’s filtration business, Selective Catalytic Reduction technology from Cummins Emission Solutions and more.
In addition to its partnership with Nissan, Cummins is developing a version of the V8 Turbo Diesel for commercial vehicle customers.
The V8 program is planning to add to its 300 person workforce over the next several years and at maturity expects to employ approximately 800 workers. Exact details on hiring are not yet available but people interested in applying for externally posted positions should do so by visiting careers.cummins.com.
The Columbus Engine Plant dates back to the 1920s. It was originally built around a two-story Civil War era house purchased by Cummins co-founders Clessie Cummins and W.G. Irwin.
To read more about the Cummins 5.0L V8 Turbo Diesel, visit cumminsengines.com.
About Cummins Inc. Cummins Inc., a global power leader, is a corporation of complementary business units that design, manufacture, distribute and service diesel and natural gas engines and related technologies, including fuel systems, controls, air handling, filtration, emission solutions and electrical power generation systems. Headquartered in Columbus, Indiana (USA), Cummins currently employs approximately 46,000 people worldwide and serves customers in approximately 190 countries and territories through a network of approximately 600 company-owned and independent distributor locations and approximately 6,500 dealer locations. Cummins earned $1.65 billion on sales of $17.3 billion in 2012. Press releases can be found on the Web at cummins.com or cumminsengines.com. Follow Cummins on Twitter at http://twitter.com/cumminsengines and on YouTube at http://youtube.com/cumminsengines.
TDR Members, Issue 81 is being mailed from our printer this week (August 5 - 9, 2013).Please allow 10 – 14 days for delivery within the United States.TDR Members outside of the United States should allow approximately 14 – 21 days.
What will you find in Issue 81?
Even though it is mid-year, it is time to submit your entries for the 2014 TDR Calendar Contest.The deadline for submitting your entry is Friday, September 13, and the rules are the same as in previous years:
Submit your photograph by mail, email, or FTP upload.Be sure to include your name, contact telephone number or email address, and mailing address with your submission.Include information about your truck like model year and mileage – and any other interesting factoid we’d enjoy reading.
Writer, John Roberts takes a look at recommended gear lubes for the G56 manual transmission that has been used since 2006.Is the Chrysler-recommended ATF +4 the best lubricant?(Without a doubt it is the best when the truck is still under warranty!)
With the newly introduced 2013 engine and its SCR/DEF exhaust after treatment, last issue we learned that the oil change interval has been changed to as many as 15,000 miles.Explanation of this change, and a look at a new oil analysis tool are a part of lube oil Guru John Martin’s article, “Oil Analysis and Oil Change Intervals.”
I do a story about a collection of articles that give you “everything you need to know” about a specific topic.I pledge to put the articles together for you to read at on the Turbo Diesel Register’s website in a collection titled, “The Perfect Collection.”
Writer, Greg Whale gives us his driving impressions of the 2013 Ram Turbo Diesel.
Writer, Joe Donnelly does a technical comparison of the 2013 and his 2004 truck.Don’t be fooled.Joe is looking to purchase a 2013, and this is his way of achieving that goal.
Writer, Scott Dalgleish continues to tinker with his Second Generation, 12-valve truck.Cylinder heads, head studs, and interior noise are tackled in his Issue 81 report.
And last but not least, writer Andy Redmond comes to the aid of all generation owners with his “Perfect Collection” article that addresses the problem of, “Why Won’t My Engine Start.”Andy starts with the basics then gives you tips to find the more obscure problems.
Enjoy Issue 81, and please continue to spread the word about the Turbo Diesel Register.
I’m glad to that you asked.It has been months since the February 14th news of the Ram 1500 with a diesel engine.Oddly, looking back at our Issue 80 coverage of the announcement (page 46), it appears that Chrysler was not yet ready to discuss the new diesel.However, an internal memo from the previous month was somehow picked up by the Detroit Free Press, and the public relations guys were forced to break the news.
Now, six months later, the timing of the announcement really does not matter.It is time to focus on the upcoming diesel product launch as we will soon see the V-6 VM Motori diesel engine in the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee as well as the 2014 Ram 1500.
What do we know about VM Motori and the V-6 that will be in the new 2014 Chrysler vehicles?TDR writers Andy Mikonis and Greg Whale have both talked about the engine and a bit of VM history.Mikonis gave us the quick rundown in Issue 80:
“The engine is sourced from VM Motori in Italy, a company currently owned 50/50 by Fiat and General Motors.VM was founded in 1947, and Chrysler has used VM engines since the early 1990s, primarily four-cylinders for minivans and Jeep products in overseas markets.You may also remember the 2005 – 2007 Jeep Liberty which was sold here; that was a VM engine.Sales were discontinued because it did not meet the 2007.5 emissions standards.”
Mikonis’ briefing about VM Motori being owned 50/50 by Fiat and General Motors deserves further investigation.Insight into VM’s ownership comes to us from the July 15, 2013 edition of Automotive News,“Jeep Gets Bargain Diesel Thanks to GM Troubles.”Quoting from Automotive News,
“If buyers warm up to the new 3.0-liter V-6 turbodiesel engine available in the Jeep Grand Cherokee and Ram 1500 pickup, don’t be surprised if Chrysler-Fiat CEO Sergio Marcionne sends a case of Prosecco to General Motors CEO Dan Akerson.
“GM wrote the check that paid for the engine’s early development.Here’s the story:
“GM bought 50 percent of Italian engine maker VM Motori in July 2007.Later that year GM announced it was working with VM Motori on a 2.9-liter diesel V-6 turbo engine for the European version of the Cadillac CTS to be launched in 2009.
“But then the wheels came loose on Cadillac’s European plans as sales failed to take off.GM’s June 2009 bankruptcy complicated matters further.VM continued developing the engine, but it was never used in a GM vehicle.
“Meanwhile, Fiat bought 50 percent of VM Motori in February 2011 – and there was a brand-new diesel V-6 turbo engine ready to go.There have been some design changes, but the engine that was originally designed for Cadillac will get its first action competing against the company that conceived it.
“GM has not announced plans for a diesel for its light-duty trucks or SUVs, but it could also end up using the engine, since VM Motori is free to sell it to other customers.”
Next up, the July 22, 2013 edition of Automotive News has an interview with the President of VM North America, Raffaele De Vivo.The following are excerpts from the Automotive News interview that was done by Automotive News staff reporter Larry Vellequette:
Chrysler is VM Motori’s biggest client and accounts for nearly 85 percent of its global sales.VM Motori is owned 50 – 50 by Fiat and General Motors.
Q:How many engines does VM Motori produce a year?A:This year, because of the Grand Cherokee in NAFTA, we will be around 86,000.Last year, we did 55,000.We are investing more than 80 million euro ($104 million) to increase our production capacity.We are increasing our manufacturing capacity very much, but everything will be built in Italy.”
Q:Are you running three shifts?A:We are running three shifts on the machining line, and two or three shifts on the assembly line.
Q:Where are you selling engines in Europe right now?A:We supply the London taxis on the automotive side.Other than that, everything else is Chrysler.We also have many other marine and industrial customers.
Q:Why aren’t North American consumers as enamored with diesel as Europeans?A:I think for the American customer, the diesel memory is not as refined as we can provide in the diesel engine right now.The Jeep Grand Cherokee with the V-6 diesel engine is state of the art and the NVH is very nice.
Q:Does VM Motori have an exclusive contract with Chrysler, or can you sell engines to anybody?A:We can sell engines to anybody.Of course, Chrysler is not only a customer; it’s also 50% of the ownership.But I’ve never seen any stop on opportunities.
Q:Who are VM’s main suppliers? A:Bosch is the main supplier for injection systems.Honeywell for turbo – those are the main suppliers.Our V-6 blocks are cast in Brazil.The four-cylinder blocks are cast in Portugal.
Q:How many engines could you build for Wrangler if you’re also building diesel engines for the Grand Cherokee and Ram 1500?A:That would be a different engine.It would be the four cylinder for the Wrangler.It’s a different assembly line.We have an easy capacity for 4,000 engines per year, and today we build 10,000 four-cylinders.We are a supplier that is not designed for high-volume production.We are designed for lower-volume, so if we build one part number less than 60,000, that is our job where we are effective and good at.If we have to build 500,000 engines the same, that’s not our job.I don’t know that we’re the best supplier for that.
Q:So what do you think holds back greater acceptance of diesel technology in the United States?A:I think No. 1 is fuel price.At the end of the day in Europe, diesel is 10 to 20 percent cheaper than gasoline, always, winter or summer.In the U.S. in the summer, diesel and gasoline are about the same, but in wintertime, diesel is 30 or 40 cents more per gallon.But it’s also probably the culture.Everyone in Europe has driven a diesel or had a diesel in his garage or his father’s or a friend’s. But here it is different.But I see that coming, mainly for trucks.I think that the Ram 1500 diesel is a genius idea, and as many genius ideas go, it’s very simple.It will be from those guys that the mentality will change.
And now, for the Marketing 101 quiz:What is the take-away from this interview?
For me it was Raffaele De Vivo’s final statement, “I think the Ram 1500 diesel is a genius idea, and as many genius ideas go, it is very simple.It will be from those guys [truck owners] that the mentality will change.”
Let’s see if the mentality is ready for change!To that point, continue on to watch the short videl from the folks at Chrysler/Ram about the new 1500 EcoDiesel .
TDR Members, here is an interesting memo from the PR folks at RAM:
We've had an astronomical number of phone calls and emails about the 2014 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel. This is Part 1 of a short video series answering questions most people have. As more information becomes available, we will send you a link to Part 2. We're also working on a similar video for the Heavy Duty trucks. Hope you enjoy.
- 2013 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Grand Sport Vitesse: 8.0-liter, quad turbo, 1200hp/1106tq.
- 2014 Chevrolet 67 Corvette Stingray: 6.2-liter, naturally aspirated, 450hp/450tq.
- 2013 Ram 3500: 6.7-liter, turbo, 385hp/850tq.
Wow. Impressive company. Comments from Autoweek:
- 2014 Mercedes – A specific output of 178hp per liter.
- 2013 Bugatti – Awesomely, breathtakingly, wondrously ridiculous. What can be said about an engine that would drain the fuel tank in eight minutes if you could run it at full throttle that long? Zero-60mph in 2.5 seconds.
- 2014 Corvette – Another winning spin on the small block formula.
Finally, the Ram’s Cummins Turbo Diesel – Why we love it: What exactly does “best-in-class horsepower and torque” mean? How does a 30,000-pound towing capacity sound? Or a 6,580-pound payload? Thanks to this workhorse of a motor, the Ram heavy duty out-pulls and out-carries every other pickup truck out there.
More than 350 Cummins-powered Ram Truck owners will be at the Columbus Midrange Engine Plant Friday to socialize, learn about Cummins and its products, tour the plant and see various Ram trucks, including the restored first Cummins-powered development Ram from 1995. Jon Mills, director of external communications at Cummins says the event will run from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. at the plant located at 4725 West 450S in Columbus. This year, members can take a tour of the plant and participate in a Ram Ride and Drive with 2013 Ram 3500 pickup trucks. Four sessions are also available where Turbo Diesel Register members can learn about Cummins' 6.7-liter engines, service/maintenance/operation tips, Ram Truck innovations and fluid management with filtration and Valvoline.
The rally also features 13 mid-year 2013 Ram trucks on display. The truck shows Cummins' latest innovations, producing 385-horsepower and best in class 850 ft-lbs. of torque. Mill says Turbo Diesel Register is an owners' club, magazine and online publication committed to Cummins-powered Ram Heavy Duty trucks.
10 Back Issue 39 Review - The Eight P's of Diesel Power • Mixing Gasoline with Diesel • Gale Banks: A History of Performance
Member2Member Third Generation Steering Box Upgrade • Third Generation HVAC Blend Door Repair
First Generation Throttle Linkage Ball Sockets • Axle Gear Ratio Change • Front Suspension • No Power Steering
12-Valve Engines Intake Grid Heater • Smoke From Under the Hood • Engine Stumbled and Died • NV4500 Output Shaft Seal • Fuel Pressure Gauge • Fuel Pressure Gauge • Fuel Leak at Quick Disconnect Fitting
24-Valve Engines Transmission Trouble • Clutch Engages Differently Than Normal • Intermittent Dash Gauges • In Tank Fuel Lift Pump • Clutch Noise • Transmission Governor Solenoid and Pressure Transducer • Boost Fault Code, Reduced Power • Heater Core Replacement
5.9 HP CR Squeaking Sound at Transmission • Injectors • Oil Smell in the Cab • Bo Backup Lights • Transmission Leak • Replacement FCA Connector Pigtail and Screws • Erratic Engine Coolant Temperature • Key Programming in the WCM • Injector Replacement • 48RE Shifting Problem • Diagnostic Trouble Codes for 2005 Turbo Diesels
6.7 HP CR Exhaust Brake Question • Lower Radiator Hose • Engine Oil Leak • Water In Fuel Sensor
Blowin' In The Wind The 2013 RAM Debuts at the New York Auto Show
TDResource This Year's Technical Service Bulletins
Idle Clatter New Member Basics • Oil Change • Issue 78 TSB and Warranty • It Quits Pulling • My Truck Became A Boat • Check Fuses First! • Dodge Brake Controller • Changing the Water Pump
Ranch Dressing Thank You TDR Members • What To Buy? • Driverless Trucks • New Truck Update • TDR Driving Etiquette
Have Ram, Will Travel Interesting Products at the 2012 SEMA Show • Let's Talk About SCR and DEF
Back In The Saddle Reflections - Road Trips • Banks Ram-Air • Front Bumper by HERD • Mirrors • Brake Line Upgrades • Dana 70 Update • Want a New Turbo Diesel...But Don't Want to Buy One?
TDRV Lower Truck Bed Height • Max Tow Transmission Shifting • 7-Way Trailer Receptacle in Truck Bed • Fifth-Wheel Pin Box • Truck Camper Battery Questions • Refrigerator Won't Cool in A/C Mode • Fifth-Wheel King Pin Stuck in the Hitch • 2012 RV Industry Observations
From The Shop Floor HVAC Problems/2006-Newer 2006 Mega Cab
TDR Members, Issue 80 is being mailed from the printer next week (April 30, 2013).Please allow 10 – 14 days for delivery.TDR Members outside of the United States should allow approximately 14 – 21 days for delivery.
What will you find in Issue 80?
In February, the folks at Cummins’ Columbus MidRange Engine Plant opened their doors for me to take a tour.Knowing that their 2013 Open House and TDR Get-Together would coincide closely with the publication of Issue 80, they covered the nuts and bolts of the 2013 engine and allowed me to take pictures of the new parts.So for those TDR Members who cannot make it to the June 6 – 8, 2013 Open House and TDR Get-Together, I was able to capture in Issue 80 much of what you would have seen.
Other things that you will find interesting include:
- “The Good and Bad of Biodiesel” by our lube oil and fuels expert, John Martin.
- The "$942 Fuel Filter" by Andy Redmond talks about injector problems with a ’05 HPCR engine.(The owner kept changing the fuel filter to try to solve the problem.)
- Cummins provides some insight into air filtration with their publication, “The Importance of Using a Paper Air Filter.”I tie their technical discussion back to air filters of ten years ago.And we take a look back at 1952’s Indianapolis 500 race and wonder why the Cummins race team didn’t take their own advice.
- In “Backfire” we present an “Emissions Boondoggle Update.”
- And as we all know, writer Kevin Cameron can make a nut or bolt into an interesting read.In Issue 80, Cameron writes “About Those Bolts” and makes you think about the fasteners used in everyday life.
- We include the latest truck Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) in “Cummins Column.”
- Regular features include our quarterly fixes from writers, Donnelly and Anderson as well as accessory add-ons by writers, Dalgleish and Holmes.
- And we trust you will appreciate the cover photograph of TDR Member, Nicholas Hettel's, Fourth Generation truck.
Enjoy Issue 80, and please continue to spread the work about the Turbo Diesel Register.
In June of 2011 the folks at Cummins' Columbus MidRange Engine Plant (CMEP) hosted the TDR audience for an open house/plant tour. At the conclusion of the event, the Cummins folks hinted that "2013 might be a good year to reconvene. We might have some new and interesting things to share with you."
Considering the launch of the new 2013 Heavy Duty trucks with the higher output engines, one could say that "interesting things to share with you" was an understatement.
What does this mean to you?
We're Back! Yes the folks at CMEP and Cummins corporate have invited us back to the plant for another open house event.
Another Turbo Diesel Register in 2010? What do you think about the possibility of a to Nissan with a Cummins Turbo Diesel? Here is a link to an article we found at http://www.reuters.com titled, "Niss...