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Ken Freund

I’ve always been crazy about anything with an engine.

After years of pestering my father, he finally let me drive a car - at nine years of age. At 14 I taught myself to drive stick shifts and then how to ride motorcycles. Later, I also learned to fly and have had my pilot’s license for 22 years. Working on, riding, driving, restoring, photographing and writing about all these wonderful machines has always been my passion. I've been an auto vo-tech and smog test instructor, certified master technician, vehicle inspector, shop foreman, service manager, service director, and shop owner. Over the years I’ve owned about 35 bikes and 50 cars and trucks, a lot of which I wish I had never sold!

 

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Diesels Rule!
By Ken Freund | Published  01/26/2008
A recent study by the Rand Corporation, a non-profit research organization, found that light trucks and autos powered by advanced diesel technology or hybrid technology can provide larger societal benefits than traditional gasoline-powered automobiles.

John Graham, dean of the Pardee Rand Graduate School and senior author of the research paper said: “Advanced diesel and hybrid technologies show very well in this study, in terms of benefits to the individual and society overall,” Graham said: “E85 (85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline) simply doesn't provide the same benefits.”

The research examines the benefits and costs of three alternatives to the gasoline-powered internal combustion engine for the period between 2010 and 2020: gasoline-electric hybrid technology, advanced diesel technology, and dual-fuel vehicles that are powered continuously by E85. Comparisons were made for three vehicle types: a mid-sized car, a mid-sized SUV and a large pick-up truck. The cost-benefit comparisons were made from the perspective of individual consumers and society in general, on a per-vehicle basis over the life of the vehicle.

The paper ranks the four technologies using benefit-cost analysis. Using most reasonable assumptions, the results placed advanced diesel technology first, followed by hybrid technology, the gasoline engine and E85 technology. The consumer perspective accounted for technology cost, fuel savings, mobility and performance. The societal perspective also included tailpipe pollutants, greenhouse gas emissions and “energy security costs” for the fuels – the costs to society as a whole from greater dependence on expensive and unstable foreign oil supplies.

Among the key findings from the consumer perspective:

For all three vehicle types, the advanced diesel offers the highest savings over the life of the vehicle among the options considered. These savings increase with the size and fuel use of the vehicle: $460 for the car, $1,249 for the SUV and $2,289 for the large pick-up truck;

The hybrid option has smaller but still considerable savings for SUV applications ($1,066), moderate savings for pick-up applications ($505) but minimal savings over the life of the vehicle for car owners ($198);

The vehicles operating on E85 cost all three owners more over the vehicle life, with a greater net cost burden for larger vehicles and increased fuel consumption: (-$1,034 for cars, -$1,332 for SUVs, -$1,632 for pick-ups).

Both the hybrid and diesel vehicles are more fuel efficient than their gasoline-powered counterparts: 25 to 40 percent better for hybrid and 20 to 30 percent for diesel, depending on the vehicle.

“While it is assumed that the hybrid vehicle will save more fuel than the advanced diesel, the overall advantage goes to the diesel because of its lower technology costs and better performance such as increased torque,” Graham said. “For E85, it is the cost of producing the fuel, not vehicular changes, that drives the negative results.”

The key findings from the societal perspective are similar to those of the consumer perspective, including: The advanced diesel again shows the most promise, particularly for the larger vehicles: $289 for cars, $1,094 for SUVs and $2,199 for large trucks.

The net benefits for hybrids are somewhat less positive, with moderate-to-small values of $481 for SUVs and $132 for light trucks, and an increased cost for cars (-$317) over the life of the vehicle. Results for E85 remain uniformly negative, even more so for larger than smaller vehicles: -$1,046 for cars, -$1,500 for SUVs and -$2,049 for light trucks

“While the net benefit of E85 is generally unfavorable compared to hybrid and advanced diesel technology, the diesel's edge over the hybrid is not as significant,” Graham said. “If the cost of hybrid technology falls significantly, the benefits of the hybrid could equal or exceed the diesel.”
The report finds that E85 does not generate net societal benefits unless a breakthrough reduces ethanol production costs or gas prices stay near their current high levels for a sustained period of time.

“Hybrid and diesel technology are close, but diesels have the advantage for the typical motorist, and provide a strong edge for drivers who require towing, hauling and rugged capabilities such as those offered in pick-ups,” Graham said. “Hybrids have a competitive edge for urban consumers who experience more stop-and-go city traffic.”

The paper, “The Benefits and Costs of New Fuels and Engines for Cars
and Light Trucks,” can be found at www.rand.org.

So it looks like diesels may be around for quite a while. What’s your take on this?
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  • Comment #1 (Posted by JApol)

    What about a diesel/electric hybrid?
    Iknow that all the rail engines are diesel electric and as far as I know it has worked very well for the rail industry.
    I know that weight could be a disabling factor with this setup at least for larger vehicles that do a lot of towing but what about a small car that would not need large motors?
     
  • Comment #2 (Posted by Dan Metzger)

    While the published EPA mileage for the hybrids are higher than diesel mileage numbers, actual diesel mileage is closer to the published numbers and the actual hybrid mileage is much lower than published numbers.

    Also, applying a hybrid system to a diesel engine would be the most efficient (and the most expensive). Hybrid technology is not tied the the gasoline engine.
     
  • Comment #3 (Posted by Morgan Long)

    And in 100 years we stilll have not tapped the depth of technological benefit from compression ignition—we still have a long road of improvement—a point not cited in this prospectus.
     
  • Comment #4 (Posted by John)

    Diesel/electric hybrid would be excellent in a little city run-about car and would have great potential in a mid size SUV that is driven in stop and go traffic. Take the advantage of the diesel's torque and fuel efficiency and the fuel efficiency of the hybrid, in that is shuts the engine off in idle/slow situations and you should have a vehicle that gets 50-70% better fuel economy than a gasoline engine. Why is THIS not the technology being pushed?
     
  • Comment #5 (Posted by cskal)

    A diesel hybrid sounds good in theory, but I have to ask whether it is practical. With the diesel engines, especially the HPCR, running the diesel only part of the time would never allow the engine to reach normal op-temp. Wouldn't that be a loss of efficiency from the standpoint of low cylinder temps and potential engine damage due to cylinder washdown?
     
  • Comment #6 (Posted by Rich Vv)

    define "hybrid". if by "hybrid" diesels, all you mean is biodiesel, than if i must inform you, its already out their. if you mean something that fires some of the time on diesel, and some of the time on electricity... than that is one of the most impractical things ive heard of.

    i say we do some experimenting and find more efficient ways to produce biodiesel, because as is, it's more expensive to make corn into biodiesel than pump some gas out of the ground currently. and biodiesel is like 3.95 a gallon here and regular ol' diesel is 3.59 a gallon here

    find a better way to make Biodiesel..and ethanol for that matter, and we can cut all foreign ties to american oil industry, and lower the price of fuels CONCIDERABLY

    p.s. did you see exxon mobile had a 50 billion dollar profit in year 2007. its not all the people in the middle east hiking up the oil prices, its alot of corporate american stuffing their fat, deep pockets full of the green paper we call money.
     
  • Comment #7 (Posted by Andy Harman)

    Actually, Peugeot has a project started on a diesel-elecric hybrid car. Should be available in a couple of years in Europe.

    The Rand article doesn't study direct-injection or HCCI gasoline engines. These technologies could give diesel a run for the money in passenger cars if they can be perfected. The engines would be lower cost to buy than diesel, and would give ~20% better fuel economy than gasoline. Diesel would still rule in heavy duty pickups.
     
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