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 »  Home  »  Blogs  »  The New Ram, Part Duh: The Game Changer
G. R. Whale

Whale’s first work for the TDR appeared in issue 2. He has written on cars, trucks, RVs, the occasional boat and airplane, and won awards for it. In and out of the automotive press he’s been breaking parts for 33 years and writing about it for 20; he’s been a pessimist way longer than that. He admits to being expert at nothing more than filling in circles with a #2 pencil.

 

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The New Ram, Part Duh: The Game Changer
By G. R. Whale | Published  02/2/2008


Perhaps thinking they were in Chicago stockyards of old, Dodge debuted the 2009 Ram outside the Detroit/NAIAS auto show amongst a herd of cows. I guess no sheep were available and Dodge didn’t realize many press keep their (writing and recording) hands in their pockets in Detroit winter.

 

Was this a backward admission the Detroit airwaves and show floor are full of, umm, cow dung?

 

The 2009 Ram looks exactly like the one Dodge leaked/posted/swapped onto their Mopar web site. How else did they do?

 

Well…I figured the base 3.7 V-6 would be dumped for the 4-liter but the 3.7 remains, and it’s among the weakest base engine in full-size pickups. Steee-rike one.

 

The 4.7 is indeed the 310-hp/330 lb-ft used elsewhere, and the Hemi gets variable valve timing for 380 hp and 404 lb-ft…with the Tundra at 401 a rating of 400 simply would not do. Dodge claims a best 0-60 of 6.1 seconds--a Hemi, regular-cab, 2WD, short bed with 4.10:1 gears.

 

I’ve done 6 flat in a 5.7-liter 4WD four-door Tundra…and I’m crediting the Tundra’s six-speed automatic. The new Ram V-8s use a 5-speed auto (6M or 4A for V-6...get a run at that hill), and the lightest one is 4555 pounds. Steee-rike Two.

 

Max tow rating is 8950-9100 depending where you look, which will either hurt because everyone except Nissan offer more or help by keeping half-ton chores based in reality. Off the foul post.

 

You can debate the styling. It follows trend by eliminating the big seam between the bumper and grille. Note there’s a real crew cab offered…better late (the market is more than 50% crew cab) than never. It adds 2.6 inches of legroom in back over a Quad Cab…not sure it’s worth it. Another foul post.

 

The Crew Cab bed has 4.3-cubic-foot boxes in either side of the rails since fancy pickups can’t have dirty ropes, tools or parts out in the open. It’s hard to see any wheelwell intrusion yet the data gives the same internal and tailgate widths as the other boxes.

 

It has a “first-in-segment coil-spring, multilink rear suspension” although coil-spring pickup rearends were around 40 years ago and their descendants are called the “Car of Tomorrow” by NASCAR. The info never mentions one but there is a picture of a leaf-sprung rear axle…and it isn’t an HD-sized differential. Another mistake? The base-model rear? A new HD suspension in disguise? The ruling’s still in review.

 

Dash layout is similar except the center stack blends in to a broad console with automatic gated shifter. They’ve made a bin available under the right-rear passenger’s feet for storing drinks and ice; the lid swings inward so it’s easy to load from the door but really hard to reach into from the driver’s seat. Wonder if rear seat floor mats come with a hole for it.

 

Noteworthy new goodies include standard ESP/trailer sway control and optional heated and ventilated front seats, heated steering wheel (a nice lux in slow-to-warm diesels), Sirius Backseat TV and surround sound.

 

And what of the diesel?

 

Dodge specifically says a two-mode hybrid will be offered for 2010 but only that a diesel will be available “after 2009”. What the !#%&@! does “after 2009” mean? Dodge notes torque and emissions advantages relative to “equivalent” gasoline engines but don’t’ specify if that’s hp, torque, or capacity “equivalent.”

 

Dodge names Cummins but not V-6 or V-8, 4.2 or 5.6. Dodge should know there is no such thing as a gasoline equivalent. Steee-rike Three?

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  • Comment #1 (Posted by TAbbott)

    If Dodge and Cummins finally get all of the bugs worked out of their existing, supposedly 2010 emissions compliant 6.7, I can't see them being stupid enough to dump it when 2010 finally comes along. I mean, just look at how many test miles will have been rolled up by customers to not only prove up the concept, but who also paid for the privelege!

    No way they dump what will by then be a proven product when the competition's stuff will be starting an entire new set of real world teething pains. If they actually are that crazy, they'll deserve whatever fate befalls them.
     
  • Comment #2 (Posted by AKaiser)

    Dodge isn't "dumping" anything. The ISB 6.7 diesel isn't being supplanted. The V6 and V8 are LIGHT DUTY diesels for light pickups (1500s, Dakotas, Durangos).
     
  • Comment #3 (Posted by D Evans)

    I think the '09 ram is the best looking one since the '94 redesign. As to your love for the Tundra, I can't stand the bulbous, nasty look of them. The engine is the only good thing about them. As far as the weight of the truck, how is toyota getting the heavier tow rating with a lighter frame? Do you really want to be towing 9,000 - 10,000 lbs with a "half-ton" truck? Come on, give me a break. If you are going to say it will do 3/4 ton work, then call it a 3/4 ton, not an overloaded 1/2 ton. I think the lockable bedside boxes are pretty trick. Has nothing to do with "not having the dirty things" showing in the bed, it's all about security that pickups don't have w/o a canopy or hard cover. Besides, they look a heck of alot better than the stuck-on-the-side, intrude into the bed space, solutions that I have seen by ford and nissan. I also think the offering of a floor shift auto and console is great, I hate column shifters and always have the arm rest/center storage down anyway. As for the suspension, I guess time will tell, after all, it is only a 1/2 ton truck. Will be interesting to see if that suspension makes it into the 3/4 and 1 tons. I doubt it. I like the way dodge is going with the new style.
     
  • Comment #4 (Posted by JHopstetter)

    The new Dodge (2009) looks like the Charger in front, on a truck frame, Ford like interior. Under the hood, Cummins would be a good choice, but you better put traction control on those back wheels, with a light rear end and the coil suspension, you'll be spinning & jumping!!
    I read that the new Toyota Tundra does not have any room to move around in it, also the engine is powerful enough, but you would be changing the timing belt in it about every 100,000 miles, or when it breaks, if you decided to keep it for several 100,000's of miles?
     
  • Comment #5 (Posted by Herb Keenan)

    I'm on my third Dodge Diesel since 1990. 458,000 miles and 13 years on my first one. The 1999 I bought used and drove it for about 3 yrs. and it was totaled by a hit and run driver. Then I got a 2006 quad cab. I have a 38' fifth wheel I pulled with both of the newer ones and they are rock solid. They all are 250's or 2500's. and they all got very respectable fuel economy. A friend of mine bought a Tundra and it was ok until he had to pull his trailer with it then it was garbage. Very bad mileage and it was all over the road and unstable as the dickens. The last time I saw him he had a Ram 2500 6.7 diesel 2007 with a 6 speed automatic and it gets over double the mileage that the tundra got pulling the same trailer.
     
  • Comment #6 (Posted by john)

    Toyota and Dodge are both CRAZY for not offering a diesel engine in their new "half ton" (why do we still call them that anyway) trucks!! A toyota will last "forever" if you just DRIVE it, but make it work hard and it is garbage.
    Dodge needs to get the HYPE up about their upcoming diesel, have the V-6 geared for fuel economy and the V-8 for power with better fuel economy than the over hyped "hemi". And offer us some MANUAL transmissions in the "half tons"! Nothing puts the power of a diesel to the ground or gets the fuel economy compared to a manual transmission.
     
  • Comment #7 (Posted by ARedmon)

    I like the look of the new Ram. Love the interior. Love the floor shifter for the automatic although, personally, I prefer a manual on a HD pickup. Manual trannys just hold up better under heavy abuse. I can see where the bed-rail boxes could be really handy.
    Why all this talk about the Toyota? Those guys didn't even know that a truck needed a double-wall bed until recently. What do they really know about building a REAL work truck? I remember a friend's Toyota back in the 80's that had $1600 in body damage done to it simply because the firewood he was hauling shifted during transit and put several dents inside the bed which amounted to bumps on the outside of the bed. Some truck, huh? At the time, I had a Ford Ranger with double-wall bed that could handle a shifting load of firewood like that without the damage, as any truck should be able to. But even then, the automotive/truck magazines bragged on the Toyota like it was the best truck in the world! Personally, I think it's all part of the politically-correct world we live in now where everything American is to be criticized and everything foreign is praised. I don't understand it but that's certainly how it seems.
     
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