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Old 07-31-2007, 11:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The ones from case are already red?
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Old 07-31-2007, 11:32 PM   #17 (permalink)
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The ones from case are already red?
No, They are grey



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Old 08-01-2007, 12:31 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Just thought of something that might cause some problems and I would rather ask this before I order the new covers. I am thinking I can only run two of them because the lines will have to still run between the covers and I am running stainless lines bent for water injection which the top line already sticks up above the covers. Anyone else have the covers and lines bent for water? Also, if I were to run the nozels in the head it looks like they will clear the covers but just thought I would ask if anyone knew that too.

I was planning on ordering the covers tomorrow so any info would be great.

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Old 08-01-2007, 04:38 AM   #19 (permalink)
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If anyone could come up with the cummins # for these they would be cheaper and quicker to get. I work on heavy equipment and genrally speaking CNH is slow and expensive.
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Old 08-01-2007, 06:11 AM   #20 (permalink)
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The ones from case are already red?
Nope..
I had them painted to match the truck and clear coated.Probably should have had them done in powdercoat but I wanted to make sure I liked the different look first as paint is easy to change and powdercoat is not.

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If anyone could come up with the cummins # for these they would be cheaper and quicker to get. I work on heavy equipment and genrally speaking CNH is slow and expensive.
I will disagree with that..
Cummins is where I had my extra sets orderd from and they are still on back order.I heard from the shop today and I believe 3 of the sets are in but still have some on back order.

Ryan..
I am not sure on those questions as my truck has a very bad allergic reaction to dirt.When it gets near dirt it does strange things like making me cover it so the dust doesn't cover it up,LOL.Seriously,They cleared my headstuds no problem(however,mine are the newer style which required no valve cover clearance work) and will fit over the injector lines I have(stainless .093 from Haisley).I do not know much about water lines,unless your chatting about the one I use to keep it clean......Andy
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:15 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Andy- Thanks for the post! I think I can deffinatly put in all 3 covers seeing my cummins is under a Chevy and there is no cowl interferance. Does anyone know what 5.9 they would have come off stock? just helps when I try to figure out who to call up here in Canada. Also, do you know the price you were paying for them? I spent some time pollishing my stockers so if they are worth alot I think I will just go and get a set of clamp on breathers and then just tig tubes to my stock covers but those sure look nice!

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Looking at the parts look up they came off a 850k series 2. If you go to CNH's website you can look up the parts and get the numbers to rattle off to the dealer when you call them. I am now woundering how many parts are common between those engines and ours?

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Old 08-01-2007, 11:44 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:46 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I will disagree with that..
Cummins is where I had my extra sets orderd from and they are still on back order.I heard from the shop today and I believe 3 of the sets are in but still have some on back order.
Would you be so kind as to disclose the cummins numbers for these. I have never waited more than 3 days for any parts Ive ever got from cummins. Maybe my CNH dealer is bad and your cummins dealer is bad. Could very well be the case but Im not here to argue.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:55 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I dont have the Cummins numbers I only have the CASE numbers,they are all posted in the PDF file that I posted earlier. Sorry
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Old 08-02-2007, 02:00 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I dont have the Cummins numbers I only have the CASE numbers,they are all posted in the PDF file that I posted earlier. Sorry
I was asking Hammer as he said taht he ordered his from cummins. I was just interested in trying different meathods. I checked with my CNH dealer they sell the valve cover for $70, the breather $22 and the seal for the breather $8. I dont now what anybody else is paying. They couldnt give me atime frame though. This is a good post.
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:00 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I was asking Hammer as he said taht he ordered his from cummins. I was just interested in trying different meathods. I checked with my CNH dealer they sell the valve cover for $70, the breather $22 and the seal for the breather $8. I dont now what anybody else is paying. They couldnt give me atime frame though. This is a good post.
Thanks Travis.

I just ordered mine today from the Case IH Dealer(tractor) and found out that the 4BT/6BT 12valve engines are still being used and the 4bt used one dual cover/breather and two singles.

Here is the website to get the Part #'s from for Case IH...most have the same part #'s as the ones posted above.

I called both the Case Industrial (Dozers) and found that the prices there were about 25% more than Case IH (Tractors).

Here is a little info about Cummins that I found out today. I called up my old boss (worked for a trucking company for a few years) and they are very close with Cummins Ontario. I asked him to find me the covers and gave him the Part #'s and also the BDF of what they look like from the Case Website. Turns out he talked to Cummins up here and they have never even seen that style of cover before and they are importing all the engines into Canada out of Cummins in Charleston, South Carolina (we were actually the main carrier for bringing them up untill a year ago).

Anyway, He was telling us that what might happen is that case might order the engines with out covers or with the standard covers and then outsource there own covers or maybe they make them there selves. So that might be the reason no one can get #'s from Cummins.

When I pick mine up on friday I will look at them and see if there are any stampings on them as to where they are made and do some more research.

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Old 08-02-2007, 07:12 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I just had the local Cummins dealer order the last two that Cummins had on the shelf. 101.00 each!
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Old 08-02-2007, 07:43 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Did you order them as a kit or just the covers ?
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Old 08-02-2007, 07:48 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Yikes, I think I'll stick with four $10 baffled chrome breathers from the parts store!
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Old 08-02-2007, 08:10 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Ya, they arent too cheap but they sure do look nice and lets not forget they are extremely functional
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