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10-29-2009, 05:53 AM
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More important than mpg
More important than milage in my opinion, is the diesel engine's ability to stack up the miles with little maintenance.
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Consider my posts: I've never been around anything newer than a 1st gen or a 3406B
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10-29-2009, 07:10 AM
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More important than milage in my opinion, is the diesel engine's ability to stack up the miles with little maintenance.
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That's funny, for the last 14 years, my 12 valve has gotten great mileage (best is 24) and has been low maintenance.
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10-29-2009, 11:17 AM
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Well here in IN the tax on diesel is 69.2 + 7% sale tax on the dollar + 0.01 inspection fee are gas tax is 50.1 + 7% sale tax on the dollar this is out of line as for as I can see. But no one will try to get it changed.
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10-31-2009, 06:37 PM
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lets just dream here for a second. the B series is one of the best engines made so why not drop the small v8 diesel and shove a common rail 4b in, the 6b is already highway emmisons compliant so why not just take off two cylinders and sling it in a half ton.
there was a guy on 4btswaps.com that took a second gen short box reg cab 2wd 1500 and swapped in a 4b bolted to an nv4500. Can we say 30mpg with ease!!!!!!!
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10-31-2009, 08:20 PM
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A 4B would probably be a great engine in a half ton, but how many people in the general public are going to drive a 4 cylinder truck?
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11-01-2009, 01:16 AM
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Remember the guy who took a 3rd gen 1/2 ton and put a 12v into it? He was getting 40+ mpg and could break the tires loose at highway speeds. It was unreal. I can't remember the link, I think it was linked from one of the TDR threads earlier this year.
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'97 6.5 Turbo Diesel Suburban 3.5 inch exhuast, K&N
2004 Sprinter 297bhs 5ver
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11-01-2009, 01:30 AM
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Seems to me that a gasser is lower in maintenance than a diesel. One fuel filter @maybe 30,000,plugs@ 100,000,air filter every 20,000,oil changes at 6,000 w/cheaper oil than ours. I don't know if along with the added purchase price if the 1/2 ton diesel application will fly.
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11-01-2009, 09:01 AM
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Seems to me that a gasser is lower in maintenance than a diesel. One fuel filter @maybe 30,000,plugs@ 100,000,air filter every 20,000,oil changes at 6,000 w/cheaper oil than ours. I don't know if along with the added purchase price if the 1/2 ton diesel application will fly.
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I kind of agree with you, the fuel economy would have to be much much higher to justify the added expense.
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'97 6.5 Turbo Diesel Suburban 3.5 inch exhuast, K&N
2004 Sprinter 297bhs 5ver
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LOL I just posted this at 1:01 Pacific Standard time... I guess that the server hadn't updated yet from DST to Standard time cause the time stamp says 2:01 for the post. Stupid computers...
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'97 6.5 Turbo Diesel Suburban 3.5 inch exhuast, K&N
2004 Sprinter 297bhs 5ver
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11-01-2009, 08:09 PM
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I've made several trips with an Isuzu 4500 box truck with the 205 HP 460 Torque 5.2 litre 4 cylinder diesel engine. I couldn't help but imagine what an excellent powertrain this would be in a Dakota sized, or even a 1500 series pickup. 30 MPG would be an easy target for this combo.
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11-19-2009, 11:23 PM
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About 2 weeks ago I saw a 1500 Crew Cab short bed with a BlueTec Diesel emblem on the tailgate. As I passed the truck, there was NOT a Cummins emblem to be seen on the side or on the tailgate. No plates on the truck either, not even manufactures plates. This was in Southern California, specifically on the east bound 91 Fwy in Riverside County. Does any one know anything about this truck? I know about the Cummins BlueTec Diesel, but like I say, NO Cummins label to be seen on the truck.
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11-19-2009, 11:24 PM
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Oh, BTW. It was a new 2009 or 2010 Dodge 1500.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regcabguy
Seems to me that a gasser is lower in maintenance than a diesel. One fuel filter @maybe 30,000,plugs@ 100,000,air filter every 20,000,oil changes at 6,000 w/cheaper oil than ours. I don't know if along with the added purchase price if the 1/2 ton diesel application will fly.
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Agreed, If you are buying a 6B engine merely for fuel milage I think it is bad economics.
The reason to buy and expensive, heavy, diesel is because you are going to work it and not just drive it around town or to the office.
But,, the light smaller engines like the Isuzu 4 cyl and the VW diesels make good sense to me for normal driving.
These engines are quiet, fairly light, and fuel efficient.
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1990 W250 over 500k Mi,, still going strong!!
2000 Dakota v8 Black Club Cab
1967 Chevrolet 1/2t Stepside
Consider my posts: I've never been around anything newer than a 1st gen or a 3406B
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