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Fuel Additives for the 6.7
Old 12-30-2007, 06:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Fuel Additives for the 6.7

Hello everybody:

I am new to the TDR and the TDR website. Joined up a few days ago because of all the great info I have seen in the mag and on the website. Keep up the good work guys!!!!!

Just bought a 2007.5 leftover with the 6.7 in it. It is a 3500 quad cab, DRW, automatic 68RFE trans, big horn edition, and inferno red in color. Build date was 3/07 as memory serves. Shaved $12500.00 off sticker and made them give me $21,000.00 for my old truck, which was a 2006 F-250 4X4 super cab gasser with the Triton 5.4. Thought it was a good deal for the amount of discount involved, but had to play hardball with them to get them down that much.

I think it has the G30 recall done. Has the sticker on the front support bar on engine compartment. I think this was the reflash of the ECM. Don't know if they did anything with the o2 sensor though. I think the sticker just says something about a reflash of the ECM.

Anyhow, I'm getting about 13.3 in city driving according to the lie-o-meter on the EVIC.

Been looking at fuel additives for the 6.7 in the hopes of getting better gas mileage. Saw that Stanadyne has an updated brochure (dated 9/07) on their website for the Diesel Performance Formula.

Says that the new Performance Formula is not only safe for use with ULSD, but they also say, "Stanadyne additives are also compatible with the latest generation of catalytic converters, urea injection systems, particulate
filters and other exhaust treatment technologies. Engine warranties should not be affected."

You can check out the link here:
http://www.stanadyne.com/new/ppt/showfile.asp?id=4205

Note the reference about the DPF. Stanadyne is saying the additive is DPF safe. They also state that the additive can be used in conjunction with their other products, and also should work OK with any additives added by the fuel manufacturer.

We all know Dodge's position on additives in the Owner's Manual. They state that diesel additives are not "necessary," for the 6.7 but don't really say anything about them being prohibited, or that the use of them will void warranty.

Does anybody have any TSB's or official correspondance from Dodge or Cummins saying that the use of additives in the new 6.7's will damage the DPF or void the warranty? If so, I would like to see them or send me a link to the location of the information.

Also, has anybody out there been denied warranty coverage on the basis of using a fuel additive alone? Has anybody experienced a DPF failure or higher regen rate on the DPF because of using a DPF approved additive like Stanadyne?

In my mind, it stands to reason that the quality of the ULSD we are getting might not be up to snuff or as good as any diesel in the past. Look at regular gasoline. I have several friends that have had troubles with water in their gasoline, and also my 2006 F-250 gasser would knock on anything lower than 89 octane. If I used 87 octane it sounded like a one man band under the hood!!!!!

I am a firm believer that the quality of the fuel in recent years has gotten worse because of the high price of the base stock and crude. The manufacturers are looking to cut corners to save on refining costs, and so perhaps cut corners on additives and refining measures where they can.

Have seen some old threads on the TDR talking about fuel additives and the 6.7, but these were from about 5-6 months ago.

Wondering if you guys want to take another look at this and see if there any recent developments.

By the way, Geno's garage has a Mopar Fuel System Conditioner listed on their website for diesel engines. This looks to be coming direct form Mopar (dodge). I am not sure if it is safe for the 6.7, but I find it ironic that Dodge states in manuals that no additive is to be used, and yet also offers an additive themselves. Talk about a contradiction!!!!!!

Let's see if we can generate some discussion on this, and see where it goes......

neelre
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