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[hammersley]

still be friends after all - that's what's great about this group - to bad some of you are so stupid! now guess which ones - (only kidding).

But I must honestly say that having been personally involved in some pretty important well reported news stories and seeing how the news covers them - and the spin that is put on by both sides - I mean the follks who can gain and loose - makes me very suspicious of most of the issues we discuss here. I hear folks - on both sides - spouting esssentially talking points from the parties - and nobody really knows what the truth is......Be Honest - we have a tendency to want to believe what supports our positions - and will do the darndest to ignore and chatise anything that doesn't. BUT the problem that I really have is that I'm not sure we are not all very naive about what's really happening....I think we're all being manipulated - and if we think we know the truth - we are probably very very wrong.......