Is Obama sweating now.

[arrowsmith]

Originally Posted by Champane Flight

They never eat crow, never concede. They will continue this rant well into the next presidents term, he will then become the next Clinton, who I heard about for all the eight years of Bushes terms. Yet let one of us compare Bush to the present? Whoa! You are living in the past, he's gone...

If God himself came down and handed the masses a certified, bonafied, on his word, birth certificate, and told the nation he is a natural born citizen, these dimwits would still ride that bandwagon right over the cliff...

Just like arrow, who thinks that Obamas Granma said he was born in Kenya (new fib, I like that one)... You will never change his mind, he read it on townlynching.com...

CF, I have just as much proof that Obama was born in kenya as you have that he was born in Hawaii maybe even more.
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=248
AUDIOTAPE BOMBSHELL – GRANDMOTHER:OBAMA BORN IN KENYA « THE SWORD OF TRUTH
What do you think she said?

AUDIOTAPE TRANSCRIPT~
Sarah Obama: [Replies to him in Swahili]
Ron McRae: Ms. Obama?
Kweli Shuhubia: Yes go ahead.
Ron McRae: Mrs. Obama, my name is bishop Ron McRae.
Kweli Shuhubia: Ametaja bishop Ron McRae, Ron McRae. Go ahead.
Ron McRae: I am, I am the bishop of the Anabaptists Churches of North America.
Kweli Shuhubia: Yeye niaskofu Anabaptists makaisa.
Sarah Obama: Shikamooo! [Hello, good day].
Translator: Are you speaking English and , and we will tell her in Luo. Okay?
Ron McRae: Now give me that again. Explain it to me again.
Translator: It is welcome. She is very grateful for your interest.
Ron McRae: Amen. I am so thankful. Could I ask her, uh, about his, uh, his actual
birthplace? I would like to see hi actual birthplace when I, when I come to Kenya in
December. Uh, was she present when he was, was she present when he was born in
Kenya?
Translator to Sarah Obama: Alikuma zalima Obama [unintelligible].
Kweli Shuhubia: He is asking her, he wants to know something was ah she present when
he was born?
Translator: Yes. She says, “Yes she was! She was present when Obama was born.”
After this Obama came up with the non birth certificate.


Berg continues, �I furnished the Government and the Court with the information as to Barry Soetoro a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama�s legal name, which is Barry Soetoro and his citizenship status as Indonesian; I furnished sworn Affidavits showing Barry Soetoro a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama was born in Mombosa, Kenya; I presented evidence that the Certification of Live Birth [COLB] presented on the internet by Barry Soetoro a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama has been deemed a forged and altered document; I presented evidence that the birth announcement filed in the Hawaiian newspapers regarding Barack H. Obama on or about August 13, 1961 could not be verified; I presented evidence Barry Soetoro a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama never resided in the address on the birth announcement; and I raised the genuine issues pertaining to Barry Soetoro a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama�s college records wherein Berg is informed, believes and therefore alleges Barry Soetoro a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama attended Occidental College in California and Columbia University in New York and Harvard Law School as a foreign student. None of which have been refuted by the Government�.
Instead of investigating the true issues, the Government through the United States Attorney General Eric Holder, his staff and the United States Department of Justice, who U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder also over-sees moved to Dismiss the Qui Tam action instead of upholding our United States Constitution and the very laws stated to protect �we the people� from any individual usurping the Office of the President of the United States�.
WHO DOES ERIC HOLDER WORK FOR?
President Obama appointed Eric Holder for the position of the United States Attorney General and Mr. Holder reports directly to President Obama. This creates a huge Conflict-of-Interest with anyone from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder�s Office having any association with the Qui Tam matter against, now, President Obama.
There are Federal Statutory prohibitions and related regulations addressing Conflicts-of-Interest on the part of present officers or employees of the Federal (and in some instances of the District of Columbia) government.

The Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), 5 CFR � 2635, et seq. and 5 CFR � 2640, et seq. governs Governmental Employees, including U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and his staff.
http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/
I know this is a lot for you to understand but there is more.

[arrowsmith]

Someone is lying. According to Obama’s Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii as the Democratic candidate for president claims. His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room.

[Champane Flight]

Heresay is not a valid arguement in any court.


October 29, 2009 | 12:05 pm
The “birthers” lose, again.

This morning, a U.S. District Court Judge in Santa Ana dismissed a federal lawsuit challenging President Obama’s election on the grounds he wasn’t born in the U.S.

In his opinion, Judge David O. Carter stated that it is not within the constitutional power of the federal courts to “overthrow a sitting president.”

The case, brought forward by California attorney Orly Taitz, a leader of the so-called “birther” movement, claims that Obama doesn’t meet the constitutional qualifications to be president because he has not shown he is a “natural born citizen” of the U.S.

Obama has produced a birth certificate from Hawaii, but Taitz claims there is evidence he was born in Kenya.

This case has failed to advance beyond several lower courts. Taitz was also fined $20,000 on Oct. 13 by a federal judge in Columbus, Georgia in part because Taitz had used the legal system to pursue “political rhetoric and insults,” the judge in that case stated.

In the most recent case, Carter wrote in his opinion how “plaintiffs have attacked” anyone who has dismissed their claim as “unpatriotic and even treasonous.”

“Respecting the constitutional role and jurisdiction of this court is not unpatriotic," he said. "Quite the contrary, this Court considers commitment to that constitutional role to be the ultimate reflection of patriotism.”

[SRath]

Once again, the facts were ignored.

Facts do not cease to exist simply because they are ignored.

FACT: We have cowards presiding over our courtrooms.

[Champane Flight]

Originally Posted by SRath

Once again, the facts were ignored.

Facts do not cease to exist simply because they are ignored.

FACT: We have cowards presiding over our courtrooms.

Fact: We have idiots wasting their time...

[SRath]

Cowards who are afraid to follow the Constitution.

Notice that once again, this coward Carter judge did not, could not, dismiss the case for a lack of evidence. Do not doubt for a moment that he would have if he could have.

Instead, he cites his own fear of doing his job.

[PBJ2500CTD]

FACT: Obama has NOT submitted a valid birth certificate;
FACT: There IS reasonable doubt regarding his birth place,etc.;
FACT: The fruits and nuts in the Obamanation's dog and phoney show are using smoke and mirrors to produce an illusion of transparency.

Maybe the federal courts are not the venue to pursue the issue - maybe an impeachment is the path - but who controls the House?

[PBJ2500CTD]

Originally Posted by Champane Flight

Fact: We have idiots wasting their time...

And the answer is...LSD politicians!

[arrowsmith]

Originally Posted by Champane Flight

Heresay is not a valid arguement in any court.

If an Audiotape is heresay then there are a lot of people in jail because of a non- valid argument.

Originally Posted by Champane Flight

October 29, 2009 | 12:05 pm
The “birthers” lose, again.

This morning, a U.S. District Court Judge in Santa Ana dismissed a federal lawsuit challenging President Obama’s election on the grounds he wasn’t born in the U.S.

In his opinion, Judge David O. Carter stated that it is not within the constitutional power of the federal courts to “overthrow a sitting president.”

The case, brought forward by California attorney Orly Taitz, a leader of the so-called “birther” movement, claims that Obama doesn’t meet the constitutional qualifications to be president because he has not shown he is a “natural born citizen” of the U.S.

Obama has produced a birth certificate from Hawaii, but Taitz claims there is evidence he was born in Kenya.

This case has failed to advance beyond several lower courts. Taitz was also fined $20,000 on Oct. 13 by a federal judge in Columbus, Georgia in part because Taitz had used the legal system to pursue “political rhetoric and insults,” the judge in that case stated.

In the most recent case, Carter wrote in his opinion how “plaintiffs have attacked” anyone who has dismissed their claim as “unpatriotic and even treasonous.”

“Respecting the constitutional role and jurisdiction of this court is not unpatriotic," he said. "Quite the contrary, this Court considers commitment to that constitutional role to be the ultimate reflection of patriotism.”

The judge is confused. He is not upholding the constitution or even showing respect for it.
Untill a real birth certificate is shown it will never be settled.

[arrowsmith]

Originally Posted by Champane Flight

Fact: We have idiots wasting their time...

Who is wasting the time?
How long would it take for Obama to produce a real U.S, birth certificate if he has one?
How long would it take for a judge to order him to do so?
It looks like the time wasting is all on Obama's side, also the money wasting.

[Adventure Bob]

Wow, the trial of the century and there wasnt a peep out of any press on the subject. Birthers please post up. Shouldnt this be like the trial of the century? Or is this simply another of the growing number of cases dismissed for lack of standing or reasonable doubt? Come on guys, you said this was going to change the world...

Oh wait, carter himself threw out the case stating "The Constitution defines processes through which the President can be removed from office. The Constitution does not include a role for the Court in that process."

[SRath]

Yet it is the Court's sworn duty to uphold the Constitution in all disputed matters. And the Constitution is very specific about its eligibility requirements for certain offices.

So, if not the Court, then who?

Any judge who ordered the kenyan to produce his birth certificate would be within his jurisdiction (and a hero to be remembered when the LSD's are gone and an opening occurs on a higher bench!). The usurper could appeal, but he would still need to produce that birth certificate to prevail.

Even if the judge is somehow wrong; he will have done the right thing by putting the matter to rest once and for all and declaring the Constitution will be upheld at all costs.

[arrowsmith]

Originally Posted by Adventure Bob

Wow, the trial of the century and there wasnt a peep out of any press on the subject. Birthers please post up. Shouldnt this be like the trial of the century? Or is this simply another of the growing number of cases dismissed for lack of standing or reasonable doubt? Come on guys, you said this was going to change the world...

Oh wait, carter himself threw out the case stating "The Constitution defines processes through which the President can be removed from office. The Constitution does not include a role for the Court in that process."

You forget something. If Obama is not a natural born citizen, then he is not the president and can be removed.
Carter is either afraid or stupid.

[Adventure Bob]

As I have argued the courts dont agree with the birther premise. The argument posited here has been legally discredited 18 times now in federal and state court. That makes 18 cases that the courts have said "legally there is no case to be heard." Quite frankly I dont care if he is, or isnt president but again my question: what will it take before this is no longer an issue? It doesnt appear to be based on rational argument but emotional response. The guy is going to remain the president and wont be removed for this reason. If it was my argument, Id have to say leave him alone and he'll accomplish nothing during the remainder of his term and it will have simply been a 4 dull spot in the presidency. But the republicans are about to do something really stupid and give him a forum to talk his waqy back into efficacy. Some are calling for more of the types of Q&A sessions that he held two weeks ago. I would say, if obama can do anything, he can speak. Dont give him the stage: it will backfire!

Being convinced isnt the same thing as being correct.