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    Fire department Service/ Brush truck

    Being a member of the local VFD we are in the process of researching the possibilities of a new Service / Brush truck. Since I am the lieutenant for the truck I would like to push for a Dodge/Cummins 5500 with an enclosed service body / brush truck body. Our current truck is a one ton International with an enclosed utility body.



    Is anyone a member of a FD that has a Dodge/Cummins truck? I would really like to see photos and hear your opinions.
    2001 Ram 2500 HD CTD 4x4,Auto, Quad Cab,SLT, LWB, Patriot Blue/Silver Two Tone

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    Check this thread out, there is a bunch of pictures I took of the trucks I built for our fire department. What does your average bare bones flatbed weigh? - TDR Roundtable
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    You might wish to rethink your needs. . . . I do believe that these are great trucks. . . . my 5500 now has 9,000 miles on it. . . . but what I don't think the factory has worked out. . . . is long idle times. . . If the DPF went through a self clean cycle sitting in a brush field you'd have a fire under the truck. . . . . .

    However we noticed that our truck has the ability to kick up the RPM with a switch across 2 pins for PTO speeds. . . this would be great for a pumper. . . . . flick the switch, engage the PTO and pump. . . . . . . .

    Knowing your going to have 20 guys who might run this truck and they will want to let it sit and idle while they wash it. . . . . or stop with a second truck and chat. . . . etc. . . . I just don't see it. . . .

    OTOH (on the other hand) where we use it as a highway truck. . . always at GVW and cruising down the highway. . . . . so far its a great truck. . . .
    Jim



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    You might want to check out these guys.

    Wildfire manufacturing



    They have done some really nice trucks on Cummins and Phord frames.



    The first one I saw was on this site 5 years ago. Its on Dave Fritzes site.





    Dave has more pics of it HERE!!!

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    myself, build the truck for the mission at hand,

    - will the truck TAKEN OFF ROAD INTHE WOODS?

    -do you mined the truck getting scratched and dented or will it be pretty site on the hard road??

    -what do you want the truck to do and go????



    an yr old maybe two diesel 3500 would do nice, true suspension lift, real tires not ***** ones , winch, 250-400gal water, cafs sys. 4x4, regular cab, crew cab adds weight, beefy bumpper front and rear, tow hooks front and rear
    '06 2500 mega, auto, 4x4, 3.73, 285 E nittos, mopar bars, protected by Don't Tread On Me....

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    I pushed hard for a 95-98 Ram 2500 but our chief thinks ford's are cool.

    Consider a truck that is not easy to put on it's side and one that doesn't cost so much that if it gets totaled it puts your station in a bind. I know that's why we carry insurance but our dept. has a shortage of funds.



    Sounds like your talking "New truck".

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    Thanks for the info so far. I never even thought about the Sterling Bullet
    2001 Ram 2500 HD CTD 4x4,Auto, Quad Cab,SLT, LWB, Patriot Blue/Silver Two Tone

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    Quote Originally Posted by stg2500 View Post
    Thanks for the info so far. I never even thought about the Sterling Bullet


    I'm not trying to put damper on your project, I live in a very rural area that is extremely susceptible to fires. Our V. F. D. has a 08 powerjunck and we try to encourage them not to even use this truck offroad!

    I would suggest an older medium duty Kodiak 4X4!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelag View Post
    You might wish to rethink your needs. . . . I do believe that these are great trucks. . . . my 5500 now has 9,000 miles on it. . . . but what I don't think the factory has worked out. . . . is long idle times. . . If the DPF went through a self clean cycle sitting in a brush field you'd have a fire under the truck. . . . . .



    However we noticed that our truck has the ability to kick up the RPM with a switch across 2 pins for PTO speeds. . . this would be great for a pumper. . . . . flick the switch, engage the PTO and pump. . . . . . . .



    Knowing your going to have 20 guys who might run this truck and they will want to let it sit and idle while they wash it. . . . . or stop with a second truck and chat. . . . etc. . . . I just don't see it. . . .



    OTOH (on the other hand) where we use it as a highway truck. . . always at GVW and cruising down the highway. . . . . so far its a great truck. . . .






    what if you put a single stack on the truck?

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    yeah I feel for you . . our dept is so set on fords. . they are specing a new brush pump truck now and I havn't even looked at the tenative specs. . as the guys building it aren't diesel heads,,and think a 550 is the end of all ends. . etc. . oh well the 550 and the 5500 cummins probably have the same regen issues . . I don't even thing these guys know what regen is and I'd probably have to explain it to them. . its frustrating. . they are also doing a tandem axle tanker too. . and i'm not sure who or what for the same reason. . I just hope it has balls and a real engine brake. . a 160hp dt466 in a approx 1500 gal tanker/ pump sucks on hills

    Thanks

    Deo
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    Quote Originally Posted by therabbittree View Post
    yeah I feel for you . . our dept is so set on fords. . they are specing a new brush pump truck now and I havn't even looked at the tenative specs. . as the guys building it aren't diesel heads,,and think a 550 is the end of all ends. . etc. . oh well the 550 and the 5500 cummins probably have the same regen issues . . I don't even thing these guys know what regen is and I'd probably have to explain it to them. . its frustrating. . they are also doing a tandem axle tanker too. . and i'm not sure who or what for the same reason. . I just hope it has balls and a real engine brake. . a 160hp dt466 in a approx 1500 gal tanker/ pump sucks on hills

    Thanks

    Deo


    Deo,



    I here you on the non-diesel heads. Luckily, my Deputy Chief knows that I'm a diesel head and asked for some input. He wasn't sold on the Dodge until I showed him the cab and chasiss 5500. He definately wants the Cummins though You need to jump to the F-650 to get the Cummins in a Ford, which he said was way too big for what we need.
    2001 Ram 2500 HD CTD 4x4,Auto, Quad Cab,SLT, LWB, Patriot Blue/Silver Two Tone

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