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  1. #16
    If I purchase my 2014 without air suspension, what would be a fair cost for parts and install?
    2002 QC, LB, 4X4 SLT Plus, HO hand shaker 6, Jacobs brake,Limited slip. and a ton of Genos Garage options

  2. #17
    O about $350. 00 for kit (Yes you can Buy for Less) and $200-$300 on install.
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    It should be noted that is simply adding "helper" airbags, which is completely different than the factory system. They will help with ride somewhat, but not like a true air ride system will.

    A system similar to factory such as a 4-tec or a Kelderman will cost 3-5,000 installed.

    Honestly, if you really want the air ride suspension, be patient and wait for the factory to produce them. I'm seriously considering trading my '13 in on a mid year '14. By the time you factor in the sure to be incentives and all mid year, I'm sure I can trade up cheaper than installing a Kelderman.
    '14 Laramie 2500 3.42 4x4 Loaded
    '13 Laramie Longhorn 3500 DRW Aisin, 3.73 4x4. Everything
    '11 GMC 3500 CC DRW Denali Dura/Alli, 3.73 Heat/Cool Seats, Nav, Sunroof
    '11 Audi Q7 TDI Prestige
    '02 SLT 2500 QC ETH 6spd, EZ box
    '99 Mercedes SLK AMG

  4. #19
    Good advice. With that in mind, I think I will hold off ordering a 2014 untill after the first of the year and see if air suspension is available.
    2002 QC, LB, 4X4 SLT Plus, HO hand shaker 6, Jacobs brake,Limited slip. and a ton of Genos Garage options

  5. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by jgillott View Post
    I have driven at least 2 2013 3500 SRW trucks with the Aisin. Unless they made some major changes in production for 2014 that I am not aware of, they are available.


    Were the 2 trucks C&C or PU?
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    I don't think there are any factroy C&C SRW trucks.
    2013 3500 CC Laramie Dually Aisin 4.10s 8,820 Lbs empty, new 8-12-13, 98 gal Transfer Flow, 12KW Onan QD, Centramatics.
    SOLD 2003 White SLT QC dually, HO, NV5600, 4X4, B-D brake, Mag-Hytec cover, Deluxe Brite Box, TST PMCR, fuel tank vent bomb, 86K miles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirwin View Post
    I don't think there are any factroy C&C SRW trucks.
    It is an OEM option on the 3500 C&C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powder Extreme View Post
    It should be noted that is simply adding "helper" airbags, which is completely different than the factory system. They will help with ride somewhat, but not like a true air ride system will.

    A system similar to factory such as a 4-tec or a Kelderman will cost 3-5,000 installed.

    Honestly, if you really want the air ride suspension, be patient and wait for the factory to produce them. I'm seriously considering trading my '13 in on a mid year '14. By the time you factor in the sure to be incentives and all mid year, I'm sure I can trade up cheaper than installing a Kelderman.
    TDC airbags have been avoided by commercial Manufactures for decades, I am sure it will ride better (Rams systems) I'm personally will be waiting, I don't think the single leaf will be strong enough for My liking. All commercial system's are Front/Rear Bags or Rear with cam arms, None are TDC.

    I looked at Kelderman it's the best there is, But $4K for I wanted, I just could not justify the cost.

    I always added leafs to my prior trucks (many) No one had the extra leaf for the 6102 spring 2013. You can add them to the 6101 DRW spring. I don't know if super spring has released anything for the 2013 SRW 6102 yet.
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    Thanks AH64ID, hadn't considered that. It's interesting to note that the 3500 C&C is only available with 17" tires. Seems like a waste to spend that much money for a C&C and be limited to what two 17" tires will carry on each axle. The body builders guide lists 17" wheels only for D2 and DD. Might just as well get a 2500 if your going to use it for towing or hauling. I guess a service truck might be able to stay within the 6800 lb rear axle limit if they don't carry much. Not sure what other applications would work and stay within those numbers. Ken Irwin





    Quote Originally Posted by AH64ID View Post
    It is an OEM option on the 3500 C&C.
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    2013 3500 CC Laramie Dually Aisin 4.10s 8,820 Lbs empty, new 8-12-13, 98 gal Transfer Flow, 12KW Onan QD, Centramatics.
    SOLD 2003 White SLT QC dually, HO, NV5600, 4X4, B-D brake, Mag-Hytec cover, Deluxe Brite Box, TST PMCR, fuel tank vent bomb, 86K miles.
    85 Ramcharger Cummins conversion

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    What's a TDC airbag? I'm not familiar with that term.
    '14 Laramie 2500 3.42 4x4 Loaded
    '13 Laramie Longhorn 3500 DRW Aisin, 3.73 4x4. Everything
    '11 GMC 3500 CC DRW Denali Dura/Alli, 3.73 Heat/Cool Seats, Nav, Sunroof
    '11 Audi Q7 TDI Prestige
    '02 SLT 2500 QC ETH 6spd, EZ box
    '99 Mercedes SLK AMG

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    Top Dead Center.
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  12. Back on topic. Why is it that some dealers can order one and others can't. I'm looking at 13 vs 14 and the transmission is one thing that was making me lean to the 14. So I call my local dealer and ask about it. Truck manager (who understands what I want) looks on the computer and says only available with DRW in all trim levels. Now I'm looking on line and Im finding left over 13's for 10 grand cheaper than 14's on the same lot. what to do what to do?
    Last edited by dodgesst; 11-07-2013 at 11:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastTexasDiesel View Post
    If I purchase my 2014 without air suspension, what would be a fair cost for parts and install?
    With just air bags as suspension, What happens when you are towing and get a leak??, i used to have a lincoln mark VII with air bag only system and i blew out a tire and it took out the air bag on that side, back then it cost 400. 00 to replace, just a thought before you order one, Monte
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    Yes. . . very strange that 1 day you can order a srw with aisin and the next day only drw with aisin. I think it goes to part availability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mfurrh55 View Post
    With just air bags as suspension, What happens when you are towing and get a leak??, i used to have a lincoln mark VII with air bag only system and i blew out a tire and it took out the air bag on that side, back then it cost 400. 00 to replace, just a thought before you order one, Monte


    Semis, buses, delivery trucks, etc. have been using airbags only suspension for many years. Not really much to worry about. Sure it can happen, just like your leaf spring can break in half. I've seen it happen.

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